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		<title>By: D. C. DaCosta</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree about it being inappropriate to respond to the rejection like that.  Smacks of &quot;sour grapes&quot;. Fact is, this agent didn&#039;t like it, has a right to not like it, and doesn&#039;t need to be told how to do his/her job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about it being inappropriate to respond to the rejection like that.  Smacks of &#8220;sour grapes&#8221;. Fact is, this agent didn&#8217;t like it, has a right to not like it, and doesn&#8217;t need to be told how to do his/her job.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen Winters</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jen Winters]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2015 14:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Several of my peers and I have been discussing this post today. I am an indie author, but I tried to traditional route for about 20 rejection letters. I never got offended or worried or out of sorts because of the rejections. What I did learn was that if I was going to be putting so much work in, I might as well just self-publish and not bother splitting the royalties between myself, an agent, and a publisher. Now it\&#039;s just between me and the retailers and I get the better end of the deal.What we have been discussing is the cyclical nature of the traditional publishing industry. You rejected a work that will probably sell, and you can\&#039;t really define why you rejected it except that you just kind of know it isn\&#039;t right for you to try to sell to publishers. Which happened to all of us--rejected without a clear understanding of why. I\&#039;m not amazon\&#039;s best seller or anything, but I do have a book that remains in the top 100 (for it\&#039;s genre) on a daily basis and has been there for months now. Sure it slides around the top 100 and sometimes it slides off, but it always gets back there. I don\&#039;t even have to promote it anymore. The point is, I am making more money now than I would have been if I had kept with the traditional publishing industry. I might not even be published yet, or accepted by a publisher, or even accepted by an agent. In the last six months, I have read a better \&#039;Twilight\&#039; than \&quot;Twilight\&quot; and a better FSOG than \&quot;Fifty shades of Grey\&quot;-- the indie authors who produced the better characters and better story lines, and better all around books, are totally unknown, but still, they were better (don\&#039;t get me wrong, I LOVED reading Meyers and James\&#039; series).Again the point here is to simply say that comparatively, I find traditionally published works mediocre in comparison to indies who put the same effort into their books and only ever receive rejections. And that is problem that this blog post seems to be a symptom of--the traditional route values mediocrity in writing because that\&#039;s what sell, but it may only sell because the publishers push it to sell. If excellence was prized (as it has been for so long, i.e. Isaac Asimov, Piers Anthony, Stephen King, Terry Brooks, etc), a lot more indie published authors would be traditionally published authors and there wouldn\&#039;t be the kind of competitive tension that I can see as an indie.I was tempted to enter into a contest for indie authors to win a publishing contract with Mills and Boone. Then I realized that I can write my novel and publish it in a timely manner and not have to share the royalties with anyone else. Why would I want a publishing contract when I can do all the same work and get all the credit?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several of my peers and I have been discussing this post today. I am an indie author, but I tried to traditional route for about 20 rejection letters. I never got offended or worried or out of sorts because of the rejections. What I did learn was that if I was going to be putting so much work in, I might as well just self-publish and not bother splitting the royalties between myself, an agent, and a publisher. Now it\&#8217;s just between me and the retailers and I get the better end of the deal.What we have been discussing is the cyclical nature of the traditional publishing industry. You rejected a work that will probably sell, and you can\&#8217;t really define why you rejected it except that you just kind of know it isn\&#8217;t right for you to try to sell to publishers. Which happened to all of us&#8211;rejected without a clear understanding of why. I\&#8217;m not amazon\&#8217;s best seller or anything, but I do have a book that remains in the top 100 (for it\&#8217;s genre) on a daily basis and has been there for months now. Sure it slides around the top 100 and sometimes it slides off, but it always gets back there. I don\&#8217;t even have to promote it anymore. The point is, I am making more money now than I would have been if I had kept with the traditional publishing industry. I might not even be published yet, or accepted by a publisher, or even accepted by an agent. In the last six months, I have read a better \&#8217;Twilight\&#8217; than \&#8221;Twilight\&#8221; and a better FSOG than \&#8221;Fifty shades of Grey\&#8221;&#8211; the indie authors who produced the better characters and better story lines, and better all around books, are totally unknown, but still, they were better (don\&#8217;t get me wrong, I LOVED reading Meyers and James\&#8217; series).Again the point here is to simply say that comparatively, I find traditionally published works mediocre in comparison to indies who put the same effort into their books and only ever receive rejections. And that is problem that this blog post seems to be a symptom of&#8211;the traditional route values mediocrity in writing because that\&#8217;s what sell, but it may only sell because the publishers push it to sell. If excellence was prized (as it has been for so long, i.e. Isaac Asimov, Piers Anthony, Stephen King, Terry Brooks, etc), a lot more indie published authors would be traditionally published authors and there wouldn\&#8217;t be the kind of competitive tension that I can see as an indie.I was tempted to enter into a contest for indie authors to win a publishing contract with Mills and Boone. Then I realized that I can write my novel and publish it in a timely manner and not have to share the royalties with anyone else. Why would I want a publishing contract when I can do all the same work and get all the credit?</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.dystel.com/blog/2015/06/right-behind-you/comment-page-1/#comment-41886</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2015 11:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rhett, that wasn&#039;t the point being made. Of course agents aren&#039;t going to give feedback to everyone. The point was, when they do, a valid reason (something a writer can go back to their manuscript and work on it) would be much more beneficial.

Jessica said she told the writer, &quot;I wrote that I’d not &#039;fallen in love&#039; with the material....&quot; and I say, it would take the same amount of time to write what she wrote as to write one of the following:  there were too many holes in the plot, or I didn&#039;t feel sympathetic to the protagonist, or too much editing is needed, etc. Any of those reasons would have been more helpful than the standard, I just didn&#039;t fall in love with it.

Then again, I could be wrong here and nothing was wrong with the MS and the only thing Jessica could say was what she did say. So, I&#039;ll shut up now and go back to my writing. Lol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhett, that wasn&#8217;t the point being made. Of course agents aren&#8217;t going to give feedback to everyone. The point was, when they do, a valid reason (something a writer can go back to their manuscript and work on it) would be much more beneficial.</p>
<p>Jessica said she told the writer, &#8220;I wrote that I’d not &#8216;fallen in love&#8217; with the material&#8230;.&#8221; and I say, it would take the same amount of time to write what she wrote as to write one of the following:  there were too many holes in the plot, or I didn&#8217;t feel sympathetic to the protagonist, or too much editing is needed, etc. Any of those reasons would have been more helpful than the standard, I just didn&#8217;t fall in love with it.</p>
<p>Then again, I could be wrong here and nothing was wrong with the MS and the only thing Jessica could say was what she did say. So, I&#8217;ll shut up now and go back to my writing. Lol.</p>
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		<title>By: DGLM</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DGLM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2015 23:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jessica again (somehow I log in only as DGLM), but thanks for the lively, candid and often very generous replies. I know that &quot;getting it&quot; intellectually--understanding that rejection is par for the course in this business of ours--is different than &quot;feeling it,&quot; which (as I can attest) is hard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jessica again (somehow I log in only as DGLM), but thanks for the lively, candid and often very generous replies. I know that &#8220;getting it&#8221; intellectually&#8211;understanding that rejection is par for the course in this business of ours&#8211;is different than &#8220;feeling it,&#8221; which (as I can attest) is hard.</p>
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		<title>By: ward jones</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ward jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2015 21:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It\\&#039;s so easy to self publish and sell, or try to in numbers that make the effort worthwhile. Why waste time on an agent, who herself will, if you\\&#039;re that one in a hundred she agrees to represent, have her own battle to have your work considered. And if you are considered, the odds are you\\&#039;ll be rejected. I was. Most are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It\\&#8217;s so easy to self publish and sell, or try to in numbers that make the effort worthwhile. Why waste time on an agent, who herself will, if you\\&#8217;re that one in a hundred she agrees to represent, have her own battle to have your work considered. And if you are considered, the odds are you\\&#8217;ll be rejected. I was. Most are.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2015 20:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Given how many rejections you must dole out, there&#039;s only so many variations on &quot;this didn&#039;t work for me&quot; that you can write. Even when providing personalized rejections on a full. (I&#039;m up to about five of those now. On every single one of them I received some variation of what you wrote above.)

One thing that stood out for me, at a time when there seems to be a rising trend of the opposite: you actually still send rejection letters. That matters. In fact, I&#039;d say it&#039;s way more important than the originality of your response. Rejections are how we thicken our skin. Frankly, I think it&#039;s more offensive when agents choose only to respond if interested, because no answer leaves writers anxious, frustrated, and without closure. Thank you for being an agency who responds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given how many rejections you must dole out, there&#8217;s only so many variations on &#8220;this didn&#8217;t work for me&#8221; that you can write. Even when providing personalized rejections on a full. (I&#8217;m up to about five of those now. On every single one of them I received some variation of what you wrote above.)</p>
<p>One thing that stood out for me, at a time when there seems to be a rising trend of the opposite: you actually still send rejection letters. That matters. In fact, I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s way more important than the originality of your response. Rejections are how we thicken our skin. Frankly, I think it&#8217;s more offensive when agents choose only to respond if interested, because no answer leaves writers anxious, frustrated, and without closure. Thank you for being an agency who responds.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhett Bruno</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rhett Bruno]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2015 14:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe it&#039;s just because I&#039;ve already received plenty of rejections, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s right to respond to an editor or agent like that. Like Siri said, I&#039;m always excited when I get a personal letter of rejection, because even those are so rare.

Sure it&#039;s nice to get feedback, but does any author really want submissions to take even longer if every submission had to be critiqued? I know I don&#039;t. Waiting is almost an art for authors these days. The best way, in my opinion, to soften the blow is to give the response as quickly as possible. 

Useful feedback is just icing on the cake, and it should be rare. It means you&#039;re oh so close.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just because I&#8217;ve already received plenty of rejections, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s right to respond to an editor or agent like that. Like Siri said, I&#8217;m always excited when I get a personal letter of rejection, because even those are so rare.</p>
<p>Sure it&#8217;s nice to get feedback, but does any author really want submissions to take even longer if every submission had to be critiqued? I know I don&#8217;t. Waiting is almost an art for authors these days. The best way, in my opinion, to soften the blow is to give the response as quickly as possible. </p>
<p>Useful feedback is just icing on the cake, and it should be rare. It means you&#8217;re oh so close.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2015 14:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Opps! For some reason my comment above came up as anonymous when I have no qualms stating who I am.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opps! For some reason my comment above came up as anonymous when I have no qualms stating who I am.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2015 14:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all, we don&#039;t know how many rejections this person has gotten. It could be 2, it could be 20, or it could be 200, so perhaps this writer has already been &quot;toughened up&quot; along the road to publication. We can&#039;t assume anything. 

I also understand that the amount of queries an agent receives makes it impossible to give a personal reply to everyone and it&#039;s necessary to have form rejection letter. However, when material is requested, I can see how a writer would hope for something less generic as the reason for being rejected. Apparently, you requested the manuscript and as you stated, &quot;I read, admired, and ultimately, after much time and consideration, decided not to represent.&quot; 

IMO, saying I just didn&#039;t fall in love with the material, says nothing and doesn&#039;t help the writer, so I can see her frustration. What you wrote in your third paragraph is exactly what a writer would like to know:  undeveloped storyline, characters with whom I’d rather not pass 350 pages, utter lack of editorial vision for how to place it, ...worry that the telling does not match the tale, or the story is suited to a smaller circle of readers than most publishers would wish to reach.

Those reasons are helpful because it gives a writer something to work with. Just one of them would have been one hundred times more beneficial to the writer than saying, &quot;I didn&#039;t fall in love with it.&quot; Of course, this is the way I see it and I haven&#039;t even begun to query. I hope to later this year, so I&#039;m off to buy a suit of armor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, we don&#8217;t know how many rejections this person has gotten. It could be 2, it could be 20, or it could be 200, so perhaps this writer has already been &#8220;toughened up&#8221; along the road to publication. We can&#8217;t assume anything. </p>
<p>I also understand that the amount of queries an agent receives makes it impossible to give a personal reply to everyone and it&#8217;s necessary to have form rejection letter. However, when material is requested, I can see how a writer would hope for something less generic as the reason for being rejected. Apparently, you requested the manuscript and as you stated, &#8220;I read, admired, and ultimately, after much time and consideration, decided not to represent.&#8221; </p>
<p>IMO, saying I just didn&#8217;t fall in love with the material, says nothing and doesn&#8217;t help the writer, so I can see her frustration. What you wrote in your third paragraph is exactly what a writer would like to know:  undeveloped storyline, characters with whom I’d rather not pass 350 pages, utter lack of editorial vision for how to place it, &#8230;worry that the telling does not match the tale, or the story is suited to a smaller circle of readers than most publishers would wish to reach.</p>
<p>Those reasons are helpful because it gives a writer something to work with. Just one of them would have been one hundred times more beneficial to the writer than saying, &#8220;I didn&#8217;t fall in love with it.&#8221; Of course, this is the way I see it and I haven&#8217;t even begun to query. I hope to later this year, so I&#8217;m off to buy a suit of armor.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin A. Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin A. Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2015 21:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the reply Jessica; (or DGLM whomever) and I agree it&#039;s a hair-puller sometimes... The reason I&#039;ve stuck with my project at large this time is that I was lucky enough to encounter a West Coast agent of some stature who more or less broke the 4th wall and admitted (after a string of superlatives I won&#039;t bore you with) that like a lot of YA tour guides she simply considers WWII a fictional no-fly zone and is personally creeped out by anything even peripherally connected with the 3rd Reich and the great unpleasantness they caused. She advised me not to change a word of it, although I admit I&#039;ve polished up a few rough places since then by way of passing the time. Hope your conference goes well and that you have a pleasant ride home...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reply Jessica; (or DGLM whomever) and I agree it&#8217;s a hair-puller sometimes&#8230; The reason I&#8217;ve stuck with my project at large this time is that I was lucky enough to encounter a West Coast agent of some stature who more or less broke the 4th wall and admitted (after a string of superlatives I won&#8217;t bore you with) that like a lot of YA tour guides she simply considers WWII a fictional no-fly zone and is personally creeped out by anything even peripherally connected with the 3rd Reich and the great unpleasantness they caused. She advised me not to change a word of it, although I admit I&#8217;ve polished up a few rough places since then by way of passing the time. Hope your conference goes well and that you have a pleasant ride home&#8230;</p>
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