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		<title>By: The last few months in books 4/19/15 &#124; Michiko Katsu</title>
		<link>http://www.dystel.com/blog/2015/04/the-non-fiction-book-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-43848</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The last few months in books 4/19/15 &#124; Michiko Katsu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Superagent Jane Dystel writes about a way of thinking about nonfiction book proposals. [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Superagent Jane Dystel writes about a way of thinking about nonfiction book proposals. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Ernie Zelinski</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ernie Zelinski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2015 23:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When it comes to book proposals, I like to do things differently (as I do with most things in life).

First, this approach is one that I have followed to create 15 books that have sold over 875,000 copies worldwide:

&quot;Do it badly — but at least do it!&quot;

And this bit of wisdom from a highly successful author has served me well since I read three of his &quot;New York Times&quot; bestselling self-published books in the late 1970&#039;s  

&quot;It&#039;s better to do a sub-par job on the right project than an excellent job on the wrong project.&quot;
— Robert J. Ringer

Recently I looked at two book proposals that I sent out around the year 2000. Both resulted in publishers wanting to publish the books with an advance of $13,500 in one instance and $5,000 in the other. To be honest, today I am actually quite embarrassed to read these proposals. The proposals may have been poorly written but the book ideas were great ones. In short, these were the &quot;right&quot; projects that Robert J. Ringer refers to so I could get away with substandard proposals.

My substandard proposals have benefitted me in other ways. In 2003 I sent a proposal for my &quot;How to Retire Happy, Wild, and Free&quot; to 35 British and American publishers. Every publisher rejected the book including Ten Speed Press (now owned by Random House) which publishes my &quot;The Joy of Not Working&quot;. So I self-published the book in 2004. This has paid off nicely. I have made three to four times as much money by having self-published than I would have made by having a traditional publisher publish the book. The pretax profits from the book are now around $1 million. Needless to say, this was the &quot;right project&quot; for me to spend my marketing time on once I self-published.

Incidentally, I will still send out book proposals to traditional publishers since I am basically lazy and would rather have someone else do most of the work involved in publishing a book.

Ernie J. Zelinski
The Prosperity Guy
&quot;Helping Adventurous Souls Live Prosperous and Free&quot;
Author of the Bestseller &quot;How to Retire Happy, Wild, and Free&quot;
(Over 250,000 copies sold and published in 9 languages)
and the International Bestseller &quot;The Joy of Not Working&quot;
(Over 280,000 copies sold and published in 17 languages)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to book proposals, I like to do things differently (as I do with most things in life).</p>
<p>First, this approach is one that I have followed to create 15 books that have sold over 875,000 copies worldwide:</p>
<p>&#8220;Do it badly — but at least do it!&#8221;</p>
<p>And this bit of wisdom from a highly successful author has served me well since I read three of his &#8220;New York Times&#8221; bestselling self-published books in the late 1970&#8217;s  </p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s better to do a sub-par job on the right project than an excellent job on the wrong project.&#8221;<br />
— Robert J. Ringer</p>
<p>Recently I looked at two book proposals that I sent out around the year 2000. Both resulted in publishers wanting to publish the books with an advance of $13,500 in one instance and $5,000 in the other. To be honest, today I am actually quite embarrassed to read these proposals. The proposals may have been poorly written but the book ideas were great ones. In short, these were the &#8220;right&#8221; projects that Robert J. Ringer refers to so I could get away with substandard proposals.</p>
<p>My substandard proposals have benefitted me in other ways. In 2003 I sent a proposal for my &#8220;How to Retire Happy, Wild, and Free&#8221; to 35 British and American publishers. Every publisher rejected the book including Ten Speed Press (now owned by Random House) which publishes my &#8220;The Joy of Not Working&#8221;. So I self-published the book in 2004. This has paid off nicely. I have made three to four times as much money by having self-published than I would have made by having a traditional publisher publish the book. The pretax profits from the book are now around $1 million. Needless to say, this was the &#8220;right project&#8221; for me to spend my marketing time on once I self-published.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I will still send out book proposals to traditional publishers since I am basically lazy and would rather have someone else do most of the work involved in publishing a book.</p>
<p>Ernie J. Zelinski<br />
The Prosperity Guy<br />
&#8220;Helping Adventurous Souls Live Prosperous and Free&#8221;<br />
Author of the Bestseller &#8220;How to Retire Happy, Wild, and Free&#8221;<br />
(Over 250,000 copies sold and published in 9 languages)<br />
and the International Bestseller &#8220;The Joy of Not Working&#8221;<br />
(Over 280,000 copies sold and published in 17 languages)</p>
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		<title>By: Donna Bozzo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donna Bozzo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2015 22:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stacey and I worked very hard on our proposal -- and I feel it evolved into something greater through hard work and lots of right turns. The interesting thing is--- you think your first attempt is so strong until you compare it to the (perhaps still evolving) end product. You would never go back to that first draft.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stacey and I worked very hard on our proposal &#8212; and I feel it evolved into something greater through hard work and lots of right turns. The interesting thing is&#8212; you think your first attempt is so strong until you compare it to the (perhaps still evolving) end product. You would never go back to that first draft.</p>
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		<title>By: jane Dystel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jane Dystel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2015 18:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will look forward to reading your proposal Mike.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will look forward to reading your proposal Mike.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Dowd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Dowd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2015 17:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks so much for the timely advice Jane!  Ironically, I noticed your post on this last night shortly after you basically told me the very same thing in regards to my submission just hours before. I have to admit it left me a bit red-faced as I was instantly beset with visions of you rolling your eyes over yet another aspiring author trying to &quot;game&quot; the system. I apologize. I&#039;m new enough to the game that I wouldn&#039;t even know how to begin to &quot;game&quot; the system, so I not only really appreciate veterans like yourself being magnanimous enough to share a little of your wisdom, but going one step further and actually providing some definitive guidelines. Thank you. I think I&#039;ll get busy and write that proposal now.  And to think I thought that all the really hard work was done once I&#039;d finished my book...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for the timely advice Jane!  Ironically, I noticed your post on this last night shortly after you basically told me the very same thing in regards to my submission just hours before. I have to admit it left me a bit red-faced as I was instantly beset with visions of you rolling your eyes over yet another aspiring author trying to &#8220;game&#8221; the system. I apologize. I&#8217;m new enough to the game that I wouldn&#8217;t even know how to begin to &#8220;game&#8221; the system, so I not only really appreciate veterans like yourself being magnanimous enough to share a little of your wisdom, but going one step further and actually providing some definitive guidelines. Thank you. I think I&#8217;ll get busy and write that proposal now.  And to think I thought that all the really hard work was done once I&#8217;d finished my book&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Grange</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Grange]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2015 18:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post, Jane! In addition to helping the editor, publishers, and marketing team, I think the proposal is invaluable for the writer too. Once an author signs a book contract and faces months of solitary writing, the proposal will be there for them as a companion and guide, leading the way with well-defined characters, chapter outlines, plot points and a narrative arc. Then, as publication nears, the book proposal waits with key demographic information about where to start marketing efforts. A solid proposal is as important to a book project as a map is to a cross-country roadtrip! Thanks for your advice here and your nonfiction book proposal guidelines--both have been immensely helpful!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Jane! In addition to helping the editor, publishers, and marketing team, I think the proposal is invaluable for the writer too. Once an author signs a book contract and faces months of solitary writing, the proposal will be there for them as a companion and guide, leading the way with well-defined characters, chapter outlines, plot points and a narrative arc. Then, as publication nears, the book proposal waits with key demographic information about where to start marketing efforts. A solid proposal is as important to a book project as a map is to a cross-country roadtrip! Thanks for your advice here and your nonfiction book proposal guidelines&#8211;both have been immensely helpful!</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Svec</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carol Svec]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2015 14:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Proposals are hard work! The research required for my last proposal took months of combing through medical journals and interviewing experts, but it was worth the extra time because I now have a well-defined blueprint for writing the book. I have to say that the section I always have the most trouble with (and leave for last) is defining the market, with demographics and statistics. Although I understand the importance and necessity, it feels unnatural to think about the book in those terms. It requires a transition from describing my &quot;amazing&quot; new book, to chopping up and eliminating portions of the reading public. It&#039;s not only demoralizing, but hunting for the appropriate numbers can be difficult. I always wonder how other writers have successfully tackled that section of the proposal. That said, I love writing proposals. They are a lesson in focus. The writer needs to simultaneously think globally and in minute detail. And finally: Thank heavens proposals are the first step of the nonfiction process. I marvel at the bravery of fiction writers who have to write and polish the complete book before getting feedback.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proposals are hard work! The research required for my last proposal took months of combing through medical journals and interviewing experts, but it was worth the extra time because I now have a well-defined blueprint for writing the book. I have to say that the section I always have the most trouble with (and leave for last) is defining the market, with demographics and statistics. Although I understand the importance and necessity, it feels unnatural to think about the book in those terms. It requires a transition from describing my &#8220;amazing&#8221; new book, to chopping up and eliminating portions of the reading public. It&#8217;s not only demoralizing, but hunting for the appropriate numbers can be difficult. I always wonder how other writers have successfully tackled that section of the proposal. That said, I love writing proposals. They are a lesson in focus. The writer needs to simultaneously think globally and in minute detail. And finally: Thank heavens proposals are the first step of the nonfiction process. I marvel at the bravery of fiction writers who have to write and polish the complete book before getting feedback.</p>
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