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	<title>Comments on: “Kill your darlings.”  No, really, kill them dead.</title>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.dystel.com/blog/2014/05/kill-your-darlings-no-really-kill-them-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-38131</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2014 14:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right D.C., I don&#039;t actually kill them either.  I let them marinate until the right recipe comes along and then I mix and stir them into some new creation.  (Okay, I&#039;ll stop!  That&#039;s what living with a French chef does to me!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right D.C., I don&#8217;t actually kill them either.  I let them marinate until the right recipe comes along and then I mix and stir them into some new creation.  (Okay, I&#8217;ll stop!  That&#8217;s what living with a French chef does to me!)</p>
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		<title>By: D. C. DaCosta</title>
		<link>http://www.dystel.com/blog/2014/05/kill-your-darlings-no-really-kill-them-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-38129</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D. C. DaCosta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2014 23:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some great comments here.

I have only objected to cuts if the reader suggesting them has not yet read enough of the work to realize that the episodes are not extraneous, but my carefully (perhaps even cleverly?) laid hints as to what will happen next or some background as to the character is reacting in a certain way.

As for killing outright?  NEVER.  Recycle!!

When I write I have two files open on the PC:  the narrative, and a companion document called &quot;Rejects&quot;.  Anything I cut gets stored there.  Later, if it&#039;s good, I move it into a new document and develop it into something else.  In one case, I shoved the text into a new novel and let the event happen to a different character.  In another, I realized that the 3,000 word episode neither advanced the action nor told us anything new about the hero.  I was able to cut it down to about 350 words, and the original length (with a few small changes) became a stand-alone short story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some great comments here.</p>
<p>I have only objected to cuts if the reader suggesting them has not yet read enough of the work to realize that the episodes are not extraneous, but my carefully (perhaps even cleverly?) laid hints as to what will happen next or some background as to the character is reacting in a certain way.</p>
<p>As for killing outright?  NEVER.  Recycle!!</p>
<p>When I write I have two files open on the PC:  the narrative, and a companion document called &#8220;Rejects&#8221;.  Anything I cut gets stored there.  Later, if it&#8217;s good, I move it into a new document and develop it into something else.  In one case, I shoved the text into a new novel and let the event happen to a different character.  In another, I realized that the 3,000 word episode neither advanced the action nor told us anything new about the hero.  I was able to cut it down to about 350 words, and the original length (with a few small changes) became a stand-alone short story.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.dystel.com/blog/2014/05/kill-your-darlings-no-really-kill-them-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-38121</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2014 14:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting post and article, Miriam.  In my revisions I&#039;ve taken out pages of what I thought was good writing, but afterwards realized all it did was slow down the manuscript.  I see no problems with killing the darlings if it makes the story better.  Where I would draw the line is when the story becomes something other than the story I want to tell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post and article, Miriam.  In my revisions I&#8217;ve taken out pages of what I thought was good writing, but afterwards realized all it did was slow down the manuscript.  I see no problems with killing the darlings if it makes the story better.  Where I would draw the line is when the story becomes something other than the story I want to tell.</p>
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		<title>By: Miriam</title>
		<link>http://www.dystel.com/blog/2014/05/kill-your-darlings-no-really-kill-them-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-38119</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miriam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2014 12:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having said all that, I do want to remind everyone that in cutting (as with any editorial work you undertake at someone&#039;s behest) you need to really trust the source of the critique.  The edits need to feel right to you, even if it hurts to consider them, and the person giving you the suggested changes should be able to clearly and persuasively articulate why those changes will make the work better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having said all that, I do want to remind everyone that in cutting (as with any editorial work you undertake at someone&#8217;s behest) you need to really trust the source of the critique.  The edits need to feel right to you, even if it hurts to consider them, and the person giving you the suggested changes should be able to clearly and persuasively articulate why those changes will make the work better.</p>
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		<title>By: Hillsy</title>
		<link>http://www.dystel.com/blog/2014/05/kill-your-darlings-no-really-kill-them-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-38118</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hillsy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2014 10:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Killing darlings is easy......

.....it&#039;s choosing which ones I find impossible]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Killing darlings is easy&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;..it&#8217;s choosing which ones I find impossible</p>
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		<title>By: jeffo</title>
		<link>http://www.dystel.com/blog/2014/05/kill-your-darlings-no-really-kill-them-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-38116</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jeffo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2014 22:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the end result is better than where it started, I&#039;m fine with the darling murder. Sometimes it does take someone else to point it out, however.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the end result is better than where it started, I&#8217;m fine with the darling murder. Sometimes it does take someone else to point it out, however.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill McMillan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill McMillan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2014 20:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is timely information.  I am looking for a L.A. and an editor.  Perhaps someone can contact me to discuss my MS?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is timely information.  I am looking for a L.A. and an editor.  Perhaps someone can contact me to discuss my MS?</p>
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		<title>By: Katie Newingham</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katie Newingham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2014 19:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Working in a newsroom taught me to hold my work with tongs and never to grip it until it was ready to be published. For the most part, everyone working on a project wants it to succeed; Knowing this helped me learn to trust the editorial process.

Had I not learned to accept this process, I wouldn&#039;t have come this far. My first MS started in first person and with CP feedback, I changed the whole thing to third person limited. Then I got other feedback that led to whole scenes being cut and 10,000 words being added (twice). I think it&#039;s had three different opening scenes and two endings. 
And the more nuance stuff came later: deleting adjectives and repetitions, replacing three words with one more precise, and ending scenes early to rev up pacing, etc...

The hardest part of writing is editing for me, not because I&#039;m not willing to make changes, but because I can argue myself in and out of how to solve each problem. That&#039;s where CPs have really helped me - they&#039;re kind of my referees.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working in a newsroom taught me to hold my work with tongs and never to grip it until it was ready to be published. For the most part, everyone working on a project wants it to succeed; Knowing this helped me learn to trust the editorial process.</p>
<p>Had I not learned to accept this process, I wouldn&#8217;t have come this far. My first MS started in first person and with CP feedback, I changed the whole thing to third person limited. Then I got other feedback that led to whole scenes being cut and 10,000 words being added (twice). I think it&#8217;s had three different opening scenes and two endings.<br />
And the more nuance stuff came later: deleting adjectives and repetitions, replacing three words with one more precise, and ending scenes early to rev up pacing, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>The hardest part of writing is editing for me, not because I&#8217;m not willing to make changes, but because I can argue myself in and out of how to solve each problem. That&#8217;s where CPs have really helped me &#8211; they&#8217;re kind of my referees.</p>
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		<title>By: stephen seager</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stephen seager]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2014 18:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Always take your agents advice. Always. That&#039;s why you pay them...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always take your agents advice. Always. That&#8217;s why you pay them&#8230;</p>
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