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		<title>By: Carolina</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carolina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2014 20:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim it takes courage to talk loud about these things. Even if the post is 2 years old, still I found myself in the same position as you are right now. I think the industry will vibrate even more in the close future with all the new technologies coming up. It&#039;s incredible how in such a short time, many roles are changing so fast.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim it takes courage to talk loud about these things. Even if the post is 2 years old, still I found myself in the same position as you are right now. I think the industry will vibrate even more in the close future with all the new technologies coming up. It&#8217;s incredible how in such a short time, many roles are changing so fast.</p>
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		<title>By: Links 16/11/2012: Fedora 19 is Schrödinger&#8217;s Cat, Android Grabs 90% Smartphones Share in China &#124; Techrights</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Links 16/11/2012: Fedora 19 is Schrödinger&#8217;s Cat, Android Grabs 90% Smartphones Share in China &#124; Techrights]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] When Agents Attack About a year ago, I noticed a shift in the general tone of writers’ conferences. For the ten years I’ve been attending them, there was a tendency for agents at these events to lord it over the room, being very strict about what they were looking for, how they like to be approached, how not to approach them, and how to talk to them. The power balance was one-sided, needlessly (and sometimes insultingly) so. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] When Agents Attack About a year ago, I noticed a shift in the general tone of writers’ conferences. For the ten years I’ve been attending them, there was a tendency for agents at these events to lord it over the room, being very strict about what they were looking for, how they like to be approached, how not to approach them, and how to talk to them. The power balance was one-sided, needlessly (and sometimes insultingly) so. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie Barrett</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jackie Barrett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim. 
Your an amazing , Extremely talented ....... Agent. You listen with 2 ears , your Incredibly honest and more !!! I&#039;m 
Extremely proud to say you&#039;re my agent  . I&#039;m looking past the loud  Noise of chatter ..... The smoke  clears and you shine !! I don&#039;t write on blogs so excuse me  for being right at point , it&#039;s  Jim or nothing for me. 

Thank you for being that stand up man !!!  Lost art found at Dystel 

Love you 
Jackie. Barrett.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim.<br />
Your an amazing , Extremely talented &#8230;&#8230;. Agent. You listen with 2 ears , your Incredibly honest and more !!! I&#8217;m<br />
Extremely proud to say you&#8217;re my agent  . I&#8217;m looking past the loud  Noise of chatter &#8230;.. The smoke  clears and you shine !! I don&#8217;t write on blogs so excuse me  for being right at point , it&#8217;s  Jim or nothing for me. </p>
<p>Thank you for being that stand up man !!!  Lost art found at Dystel </p>
<p>Love you<br />
Jackie. Barrett.</p>
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		<title>By: Anu Kalgudi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anu Kalgudi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Three words: respect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three words: respect.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly McClymer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelly McClymer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim,

As co-chair of the conference, I just want to mention that several members came up to me at the conference and volunteered that you were wonderful and we should invite you again. I can see why they were so impressed after reading your post (I had to miss the panel to man the registration desk).

My hope is that the issues raised at the roundtable (and here) don&#039;t get buried in the furor. I see such a strong opportunity for new partnerships between authors and agents to develop. Agencies like Dystel &amp; Goderich and others obviously see those opportunities, too.

It seems like the conversation could get much more interesting if agents clearly understand why so many authors are embracing the self-publishing possibilities:

1 - the $$. Yes, I don&#039;t make enough on my self published books to impress certain agents. However, it is enough to allow me to concentrate on writing and forgo a day job (and pay for my daughter&#039;s recent wedding). That is a huge incentive to me (and makes signing a deal with a publisher that includes restrictions on my self publishing unattractive).

2. the long tail. I love Chris Anderson (we had him speak at NINC several years ago, and his take on the long tail changed my perspective as an author). Right now I can put my self published books on as many platforms as I choose, promote them when I choose, and give them years of discoverability (as well as an appealing price for readers who haven&#039;t yet tried one of my novels). I can break into foreign markets and audio if I think that will be a successful move for my books.

3. Abundance thinking vs scarcity thinking. For so long, publishing has been dominated by scarcity thinking (only so clients to an agent, only so many books published by a publisher, only so many shelves in a bookstore, etc). As a self published author, I can think of the abundance of possibilities for my work, with no need to spend time trying to convince an agent, then an editor, then an editorial team, then a bookseller. I write the book I want to write, I use a team to make it the best book it can be, I put it out there and let readers decide (knowing full well this can be as painful as letting agents/editors decide :-)

4. Bestsellerdom. Most of the authors I know are terrified of being stuck in the midlist, because that means less advance money, less publisher support, less bookseller enthusiasm, less sell-through. In my self-publishing, I&#039;m happy to be midlist. I am awed by Bella Andre, Barbara Freethy, and M. J. Rose. But I do not need to have their readership numbers to be satisfied. If my readership is smaller, that&#039;s okay. Not every book can be a mega bestseller, but that doesn&#039;t mean it doesn&#039;t have a solid readership who will love it. Publishers have a harder time with that right now, because they&#039;re all about growing the bottom line profit. After a dozen years and a dozen traditionally published books, I&#039;m happy to just have a regular income that lets me head to the computer to create without the worry about how to pay the bills.

This is a complete sea change in authorial perspective. But the opportunities for agents to partner with writers in new and exciting ways can actually be better because of this new perspective. Or so I believe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>As co-chair of the conference, I just want to mention that several members came up to me at the conference and volunteered that you were wonderful and we should invite you again. I can see why they were so impressed after reading your post (I had to miss the panel to man the registration desk).</p>
<p>My hope is that the issues raised at the roundtable (and here) don&#8217;t get buried in the furor. I see such a strong opportunity for new partnerships between authors and agents to develop. Agencies like Dystel &amp; Goderich and others obviously see those opportunities, too.</p>
<p>It seems like the conversation could get much more interesting if agents clearly understand why so many authors are embracing the self-publishing possibilities:</p>
<p>1 &#8211; the $$. Yes, I don&#8217;t make enough on my self published books to impress certain agents. However, it is enough to allow me to concentrate on writing and forgo a day job (and pay for my daughter&#8217;s recent wedding). That is a huge incentive to me (and makes signing a deal with a publisher that includes restrictions on my self publishing unattractive).</p>
<p>2. the long tail. I love Chris Anderson (we had him speak at NINC several years ago, and his take on the long tail changed my perspective as an author). Right now I can put my self published books on as many platforms as I choose, promote them when I choose, and give them years of discoverability (as well as an appealing price for readers who haven&#8217;t yet tried one of my novels). I can break into foreign markets and audio if I think that will be a successful move for my books.</p>
<p>3. Abundance thinking vs scarcity thinking. For so long, publishing has been dominated by scarcity thinking (only so clients to an agent, only so many books published by a publisher, only so many shelves in a bookstore, etc). As a self published author, I can think of the abundance of possibilities for my work, with no need to spend time trying to convince an agent, then an editor, then an editorial team, then a bookseller. I write the book I want to write, I use a team to make it the best book it can be, I put it out there and let readers decide (knowing full well this can be as painful as letting agents/editors decide <img src="http://www.dystel.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/simple-smile.png" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>4. Bestsellerdom. Most of the authors I know are terrified of being stuck in the midlist, because that means less advance money, less publisher support, less bookseller enthusiasm, less sell-through. In my self-publishing, I&#8217;m happy to be midlist. I am awed by Bella Andre, Barbara Freethy, and M. J. Rose. But I do not need to have their readership numbers to be satisfied. If my readership is smaller, that&#8217;s okay. Not every book can be a mega bestseller, but that doesn&#8217;t mean it doesn&#8217;t have a solid readership who will love it. Publishers have a harder time with that right now, because they&#8217;re all about growing the bottom line profit. After a dozen years and a dozen traditionally published books, I&#8217;m happy to just have a regular income that lets me head to the computer to create without the worry about how to pay the bills.</p>
<p>This is a complete sea change in authorial perspective. But the opportunities for agents to partner with writers in new and exciting ways can actually be better because of this new perspective. Or so I believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 21:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, El Lobo. Your words are wise and sweet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, El Lobo. Your words are wise and sweet.</p>
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		<title>By: Stella MacLean</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stella MacLean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Jim,
Thank you for this very helpful post. I was at that roundtable, sitting near the back. It started off quite civilly, then the tenor of the voices began to rise, and the next thing I knew we were witnessing a rather unfortunate display of don&#039;t rock the agent boat. In this new publishing paradigm everyone&#039;s boat is rocking, from writers to agents to publishers. But having been a writer for twenty years and a reader all my life, there has never been a more exciting time to be part of what is now such a vibrant industry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jim,<br />
Thank you for this very helpful post. I was at that roundtable, sitting near the back. It started off quite civilly, then the tenor of the voices began to rise, and the next thing I knew we were witnessing a rather unfortunate display of don&#8217;t rock the agent boat. In this new publishing paradigm everyone&#8217;s boat is rocking, from writers to agents to publishers. But having been a writer for twenty years and a reader all my life, there has never been a more exciting time to be part of what is now such a vibrant industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon L Reddy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharon L Reddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been thinking about the role of agents in this changing industry for quite some time.  Perhaps the agent should not be marketing to publishers, but to the public.  An agent, with a good reputation, could serve as the &#039;gatekeeper of good taste.&#039;  Why not pay that agent the 30% Amazon and others want for the privilege of dumping a book in with all the others?

As I&#039;ve said before, Amazon is a warehouse and Smashwords is a distributor to other warehouses.  The review and ranking system on both Amazon and Goodreads are more abused by spite reviews and cyberbullies than authors reviewing other authors, or family, who are of the honest opinion the book is wonderful, because it was written.

Thankfully, the changing industry allows books that are not written for the mass market to be published.  Literary art is being revived and renewed, but who will say, &quot;This book is more?&quot;  Where are the boutiques and galleries for works that are?  Is there a book the equivalent of Ursula Leguin&#039;s great work languishing under a batch of one and two-star reviews, because it&#039;s not mass-market oriented?  Where are the boutiques and galleries, for those looking for more depth and complexity, for fine art?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about the role of agents in this changing industry for quite some time.  Perhaps the agent should not be marketing to publishers, but to the public.  An agent, with a good reputation, could serve as the &#8216;gatekeeper of good taste.&#8217;  Why not pay that agent the 30% Amazon and others want for the privilege of dumping a book in with all the others?</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve said before, Amazon is a warehouse and Smashwords is a distributor to other warehouses.  The review and ranking system on both Amazon and Goodreads are more abused by spite reviews and cyberbullies than authors reviewing other authors, or family, who are of the honest opinion the book is wonderful, because it was written.</p>
<p>Thankfully, the changing industry allows books that are not written for the mass market to be published.  Literary art is being revived and renewed, but who will say, &#8220;This book is more?&#8221;  Where are the boutiques and galleries for works that are?  Is there a book the equivalent of Ursula Leguin&#8217;s great work languishing under a batch of one and two-star reviews, because it&#8217;s not mass-market oriented?  Where are the boutiques and galleries, for those looking for more depth and complexity, for fine art?</p>
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		<title>By: Antonia Marlowe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antonia Marlowe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 07:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Jim.  You have almost restored my faith in agents.  I am pleased to hear some of you care about their clients, and just as importantly, in the expression of professionalism in their own writings.  This has not been my experience to date, neither here in Australia, in the UK or in my dealings with US agents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Jim.  You have almost restored my faith in agents.  I am pleased to hear some of you care about their clients, and just as importantly, in the expression of professionalism in their own writings.  This has not been my experience to date, neither here in Australia, in the UK or in my dealings with US agents.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzie Quint</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Suzie Quint]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 03:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for acknowledging the power imbalance. That goes a long way toward easing the resentment I&#039;d come to feel for agents who are too busy being prima donnas to even say, &quot;Thanks but no thanks.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for acknowledging the power imbalance. That goes a long way toward easing the resentment I&#8217;d come to feel for agents who are too busy being prima donnas to even say, &#8220;Thanks but no thanks.&#8221;</p>
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