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	<title>Comments on: Which or that and other gripes about grammar</title>
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		<title>By: Julie Nilson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julie Nilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2012 14:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your sentence is correct as written, using &quot;that,&quot; but I agree with the posters who pointed out that it&#039;s looooooong. :)

That/which, I/me, and other similar grammar errors don&#039;t bother me too much, since the usage and definition of those words are very similar. The errors are understandable, unless you&#039;re a copyeditor or just a grammar geek. Plus, if everyone got those right all the time, I wouldn&#039;t get as much proofreading work!

The ones that drive me crazy are you&#039;re/your and their/there/they&#039;re, since those words mean entirely different things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your sentence is correct as written, using &#8220;that,&#8221; but I agree with the posters who pointed out that it&#8217;s looooooong. <img src="http://www.dystel.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/simple-smile.png" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>That/which, I/me, and other similar grammar errors don&#8217;t bother me too much, since the usage and definition of those words are very similar. The errors are understandable, unless you&#8217;re a copyeditor or just a grammar geek. Plus, if everyone got those right all the time, I wouldn&#8217;t get as much proofreading work!</p>
<p>The ones that drive me crazy are you&#8217;re/your and their/there/they&#8217;re, since those words mean entirely different things.</p>
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		<title>By: D. C. DaCosta</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D. C. DaCosta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 01:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These are great examples, and (sadly) are far too common.

I&#039;ve had to teach myself to use poorer grammar in order for my first person narrator to sound like the person she is -- what a challenge!

I think the thing that annoys me most, however, is one that Kristin mentioned, above:  use of the nearly-correct word instead of the correct word.  It all points back to whether or not the writer (and his editor!) has done his homework.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are great examples, and (sadly) are far too common.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had to teach myself to use poorer grammar in order for my first person narrator to sound like the person she is &#8212; what a challenge!</p>
<p>I think the thing that annoys me most, however, is one that Kristin mentioned, above:  use of the nearly-correct word instead of the correct word.  It all points back to whether or not the writer (and his editor!) has done his homework.</p>
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		<title>By: Kellie Lovegrove</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kellie Lovegrove]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 18:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spelling, OMG, spelling.  Mostly like &quot;cactuses&quot; instead of &quot;cacti&quot; or &quot;deers&quot; instead of &quot;deer.&quot;  Another would be word confusion, like using &quot;to&quot; instead of &quot;too&quot; and &quot;red&quot; instead of &quot;read.&quot;  I even saw &quot;eight&quot; instead of &quot;ate&quot; once.

I&#039;ve been told I&#039;m the only one that does this, but I hate it when I&#039;m really into a book, especially tense points, and I see a typo.  I usually end up having to go back and reread the last few lines trying to figure out what was really meant (don&#039;t judge me, I have dyslexia).  It throws everything off and drives me up the wall.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spelling, OMG, spelling.  Mostly like &#8220;cactuses&#8221; instead of &#8220;cacti&#8221; or &#8220;deers&#8221; instead of &#8220;deer.&#8221;  Another would be word confusion, like using &#8220;to&#8221; instead of &#8220;too&#8221; and &#8220;red&#8221; instead of &#8220;read.&#8221;  I even saw &#8220;eight&#8221; instead of &#8220;ate&#8221; once.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been told I&#8217;m the only one that does this, but I hate it when I&#8217;m really into a book, especially tense points, and I see a typo.  I usually end up having to go back and reread the last few lines trying to figure out what was really meant (don&#8217;t judge me, I have dyslexia).  It throws everything off and drives me up the wall.</p>
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		<title>By: Stacey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stacey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for all the great comments. Glad this post struck a chord. Let&#039;s keep talking!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the great comments. Glad this post struck a chord. Let&#8217;s keep talking!</p>
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		<title>By: Stacey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stacey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that these mistakes are rampant and I wonder sometimes if people really don&#039;t know the differences or just move so fast they make mistakes. Either way it jumps out like it&#039;s in 3D.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that these mistakes are rampant and I wonder sometimes if people really don&#8217;t know the differences or just move so fast they make mistakes. Either way it jumps out like it&#8217;s in 3D.</p>
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		<title>By: Stacey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stacey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My goodness, you are so right Daved. It&#039;s a good thing that I&#039;m not a writer and I represent them instead!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My goodness, you are so right Daved. It&#8217;s a good thing that I&#8217;m not a writer and I represent them instead!</p>
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		<title>By: Industry News-August 12 &#187; RWA-WF</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Industry News-August 12 &#187; RWA-WF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 18:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Confused about which versus that? Agent Stacey Kendall Glick of DGLM explains the difference. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Confused about which versus that? Agent Stacey Kendall Glick of DGLM explains the difference. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 14:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The grammar article is very useful because it clarified for me the correct usage of which/that and lay/lie, both of which (hopefully used correctly) I struggle with. It included one of my main grammatical pet peeves--the misuse of &quot;less&quot; when it should be &quot;fewer.&quot; What&#039;s missing is the who/that issue--when did we stop using &#039;who&#039;? And as my spouse points out, &#039;felt&#039; is used when &#039;believe&#039; is more appropriate. His students now know the difference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The grammar article is very useful because it clarified for me the correct usage of which/that and lay/lie, both of which (hopefully used correctly) I struggle with. It included one of my main grammatical pet peeves&#8211;the misuse of &#8220;less&#8221; when it should be &#8220;fewer.&#8221; What&#8217;s missing is the who/that issue&#8211;when did we stop using &#8216;who&#8217;? And as my spouse points out, &#8216;felt&#8217; is used when &#8216;believe&#8217; is more appropriate. His students now know the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Selene</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Selene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 11:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lay and Lie--they&#039;re not the same verb! I see them misused all the time, even in lots of published novels. Maybe because lots of people seem to say it wrong too, so they think it looks right on paper?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lay and Lie&#8211;they&#8217;re not the same verb! I see them misused all the time, even in lots of published novels. Maybe because lots of people seem to say it wrong too, so they think it looks right on paper?</p>
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		<title>By: Kristin Laughtin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kristin Laughtin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 05:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love grammar, but with my linguistic background, sometimes it&#039;s hard for me to come up with explanations for grammatical rules that would impart an intuitive understanding to someone who doesn&#039;t have that background.  I get caught up in the technical mumbo-jumbo.  Needless to say, I love Klems&#039; explanation.

Even with linguistic knowledge, a few of the common grammar mistakes listed still trip me up.  I have to be pretty careful and double-check when I&#039;m using lay/lie (or any of their past tense forms) or continual/continuous.  I&#039;m probably guilty of using &quot;whether&quot; in place of &quot;if&quot; at times, although that&#039;s more me succumbing to common usage than true ignorance.


My biggest grammar pet peeves:
-&quot;Irregardless&quot;.  What is irregard?

-Misuse of &quot;jealous&quot; in place of &quot;envious&quot;.  They&#039;re becoming interchangeable in common usage, but the true meanings of each word are nuanced and distinct.  It&#039;s become a joke with a friend to say we&#039;re jealous of each other&#039;s coats because, according to the proper definitions, that&#039;s a pretty silly thing to be.

-&quot;Affect&quot; vs. &quot;effect&quot;.  This is one of those ones that just seems obvious to me and therefore should be to everyone else.

-Ensure/insure mix-ups.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love grammar, but with my linguistic background, sometimes it&#8217;s hard for me to come up with explanations for grammatical rules that would impart an intuitive understanding to someone who doesn&#8217;t have that background.  I get caught up in the technical mumbo-jumbo.  Needless to say, I love Klems&#8217; explanation.</p>
<p>Even with linguistic knowledge, a few of the common grammar mistakes listed still trip me up.  I have to be pretty careful and double-check when I&#8217;m using lay/lie (or any of their past tense forms) or continual/continuous.  I&#8217;m probably guilty of using &#8220;whether&#8221; in place of &#8220;if&#8221; at times, although that&#8217;s more me succumbing to common usage than true ignorance.</p>
<p>My biggest grammar pet peeves:<br />
-&#8220;Irregardless&#8221;.  What is irregard?</p>
<p>-Misuse of &#8220;jealous&#8221; in place of &#8220;envious&#8221;.  They&#8217;re becoming interchangeable in common usage, but the true meanings of each word are nuanced and distinct.  It&#8217;s become a joke with a friend to say we&#8217;re jealous of each other&#8217;s coats because, according to the proper definitions, that&#8217;s a pretty silly thing to be.</p>
<p>-&#8220;Affect&#8221; vs. &#8220;effect&#8221;.  This is one of those ones that just seems obvious to me and therefore should be to everyone else.</p>
<p>-Ensure/insure mix-ups.</p>
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