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	<title>Comments on: Seth Godin, right again</title>
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		<title>By: K. Tomsic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K. Tomsic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When publishers hold back a Kindle copy, not only are they missing the most desirable audience to help with word of mouth marketing, but they are also missing sales figures they may not recognize (perhaps Freakenomics, but sales none the less) :  (1) as a Kindle reader, I am able to consume more books because it&#039;s just plain easy to tote that little device around; (2) as a true book lover, when I read a *great* book on my their Kindle, I&#039;m often compelled to buy an additional hard copy for my home library (or as a gift for a friend);(3) there are Kindle users who have a hard copy of the book in one location and then another copy on their Kindle at home.  I&#039;m friends with a handful of &quot;three-Kindle&quot; families.  An example of a book at two locations would be a students who purposefully leaves their reading book at school and then purchases a second copy to read from their Kindle at home.  I&#039;ve witnessed parents and 5th grade students selecting books when and only when a Kindle copy is available (if there is not a Kindle copy, the student selects another title.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When publishers hold back a Kindle copy, not only are they missing the most desirable audience to help with word of mouth marketing, but they are also missing sales figures they may not recognize (perhaps Freakenomics, but sales none the less) :  (1) as a Kindle reader, I am able to consume more books because it&#39;s just plain easy to tote that little device around; (2) as a true book lover, when I read a *great* book on my their Kindle, I&#39;m often compelled to buy an additional hard copy for my home library (or as a gift for a friend);(3) there are Kindle users who have a hard copy of the book in one location and then another copy on their Kindle at home.  I&#39;m friends with a handful of &quot;three-Kindle&quot; families.  An example of a book at two locations would be a students who purposefully leaves their reading book at school and then purchases a second copy to read from their Kindle at home.  I&#39;ve witnessed parents and 5th grade students selecting books when and only when a Kindle copy is available (if there is not a Kindle copy, the student selects another title.)</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas L. Perry</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are absolutely correct. I have almost as many books on my Kindle as real books on my bookshelf, and I&#039;ve only had the Kindle for a few months. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is easy to buy books on the Kindle. I actually like the reading experience, because I can read what I want anywhere. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sometimes I feel like nonfiction, so that&#039;s what I read. Other times I want an entertaining thriller, so I pick one up. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The point is that I don&#039;t have to bring a backpack full of books with me. In fact I even have the iPhone app so that I can read while waiting for attendees to show up to meetings. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, I have a website. Yes, I am on Twitter, Facebook, Goodreads, Shelfari, and blog about books, and yes, I think booksellers should be interested in selling to me. I know that sounds arrogant, and it probably is, but I do buy a lot of books.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;twitter.com/thenextwriter&lt;br /&gt;www.douglasLperry.com&lt;br /&gt;douglasLperry.wordpress.com&lt;br /&gt;adventures-in-creative-writing.blogspot.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are absolutely correct. I have almost as many books on my Kindle as real books on my bookshelf, and I&#39;ve only had the Kindle for a few months. </p>
<p>It is easy to buy books on the Kindle. I actually like the reading experience, because I can read what I want anywhere. </p>
<p>Sometimes I feel like nonfiction, so that&#39;s what I read. Other times I want an entertaining thriller, so I pick one up. </p>
<p>The point is that I don&#39;t have to bring a backpack full of books with me. In fact I even have the iPhone app so that I can read while waiting for attendees to show up to meetings. </p>
<p>Yes, I have a website. Yes, I am on Twitter, Facebook, Goodreads, Shelfari, and blog about books, and yes, I think booksellers should be interested in selling to me. I know that sounds arrogant, and it probably is, but I do buy a lot of books.</p>
<p>twitter.com/thenextwriter<br /><a href="http://www.douglasLperry.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.douglasLperry.com</a><br />douglasLperry.wordpress.com<br />adventures-in-creative-writing.blogspot.com</p>
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		<title>By: DGLM</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. ChompChomp -&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I agree.  Publishers should be doing more to court high-volume readers.  They should also be bundling things like hardcovers/e-books/audiobooks, when possible to give value to the consumer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Michael]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. ChompChomp &#8211;</p>
<p>I agree.  Publishers should be doing more to court high-volume readers.  They should also be bundling things like hardcovers/e-books/audiobooks, when possible to give value to the consumer.</p>
<p>&#8211; Michael</p>
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		<title>By: joelle</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s so funny is that everyone&#039;s blogging agreeing with you. Where are the publishers? Are they following this? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m sure they&#039;re out there, but I haven&#039;t seen any blog posts saying the opposite.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#39;s so funny is that everyone&#39;s blogging agreeing with you. Where are the publishers? Are they following this? </p>
<p>I&#39;m sure they&#39;re out there, but I haven&#39;t seen any blog posts saying the opposite.</p>
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		<title>By: mr chompchomp</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t own an ereader and won&#039;t, probably, until it truly replaces print. Otherwise it would be just one more thing, in addition to paper books that I&#039;d have to haul around.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I am the ereader type.  I have three books going at any point in time.  One print book for places like the bus, the bus stop, and my bed before night-night, one audiobook for the car and the dishes and the yardwork, and one ebook on my laptop or netbook for reading while I&#039;m waiting for some code to compile at work. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And, yeah, I  blog about books and talk about books a lot.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What I&#039;m saying is that Godin&#039;s idea can be applied more broadly.  By going beyond print, not only to eReaders, publishers can make it possible for big readers to have more opportunities to consume their products. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Plus there&#039;s the simple sense of expecting fairness among consumers.  Whatever the costs of acquisition of titles, and the cost of converting to non-print media, consumers are well aware that electronic media, electronically distributed are WAY WAY cheaper than print media.  And they expect a cut of the savings.  And they should.  And you will alienate them, the way the music industry did, if you don&#039;t cut them in.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I, for one, get all of my audiobooks from the library or from an Audible subscription, otherwise I can&#039;t afford them.  The retail audiobooks are severely overpriced.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t own an ereader and won&#39;t, probably, until it truly replaces print. Otherwise it would be just one more thing, in addition to paper books that I&#39;d have to haul around.</p>
<p>But I am the ereader type.  I have three books going at any point in time.  One print book for places like the bus, the bus stop, and my bed before night-night, one audiobook for the car and the dishes and the yardwork, and one ebook on my laptop or netbook for reading while I&#39;m waiting for some code to compile at work. </p>
<p>And, yeah, I  blog about books and talk about books a lot.</p>
<p>What I&#39;m saying is that Godin&#39;s idea can be applied more broadly.  By going beyond print, not only to eReaders, publishers can make it possible for big readers to have more opportunities to consume their products. </p>
<p>Plus there&#39;s the simple sense of expecting fairness among consumers.  Whatever the costs of acquisition of titles, and the cost of converting to non-print media, consumers are well aware that electronic media, electronically distributed are WAY WAY cheaper than print media.  And they expect a cut of the savings.  And they should.  And you will alienate them, the way the music industry did, if you don&#39;t cut them in.</p>
<p>I, for one, get all of my audiobooks from the library or from an Audible subscription, otherwise I can&#39;t afford them.  The retail audiobooks are severely overpriced.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan B.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this.  As somebody who hasn&#039;t been all that interested in e-books (I hate reading stuff on screens), I&#039;ve never bought into the idea that books (and bookstores) were going to become irrelevant. Mainly because the argument/presentation is a bit short-sighted.  The whole, &quot;Books will cease to exist!&quot; opening line tends to throw me into a funk.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A couple of things:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.) I think the idea of voracious readers helping to market a book (via their blog, etc) is spot-on.  I can&#039;t see somebody championing the Kindle version of a book...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2.) I don&#039;t buy CDs - ever.  It is too much of a hassle.  I can go to iTunes, listen to what I want, and then download it immediately.  It&#039;s cheaper, easier, and - of course - faster than having to deal with going out.  If anything, it seems like e-books would increase the sales of a particular book (not to mention the sales coming from actual books).  Maybe I&#039;m wrong, but it seems like that is a good thing? ;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3.) Re: inferior work.  I don&#039;t know if I buy this.  You can just as easily pick up a book at a bookstore and read a couple of chapters - I just did this with Libba Bray&#039;s &quot;Going Bovine&quot;.  I liked it, so I bought it.  I don&#039;t know if you can say somebody isn&#039;t aspiring to create excellent work in this context...but, I may be wrong (it&#039;s happened...once.) ;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, thanks for this...it makes me want to consider buying an e-reader....gasp! (you know, if my wife will let me...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this.  As somebody who hasn&#39;t been all that interested in e-books (I hate reading stuff on screens), I&#39;ve never bought into the idea that books (and bookstores) were going to become irrelevant. Mainly because the argument/presentation is a bit short-sighted.  The whole, &quot;Books will cease to exist!&quot; opening line tends to throw me into a funk.</p>
<p>A couple of things:</p>
<p>1.) I think the idea of voracious readers helping to market a book (via their blog, etc) is spot-on.  I can&#39;t see somebody championing the Kindle version of a book&#8230;</p>
<p>2.) I don&#39;t buy CDs &#8211; ever.  It is too much of a hassle.  I can go to iTunes, listen to what I want, and then download it immediately.  It&#39;s cheaper, easier, and &#8211; of course &#8211; faster than having to deal with going out.  If anything, it seems like e-books would increase the sales of a particular book (not to mention the sales coming from actual books).  Maybe I&#39;m wrong, but it seems like that is a good thing? 😉</p>
<p>3.) Re: inferior work.  I don&#39;t know if I buy this.  You can just as easily pick up a book at a bookstore and read a couple of chapters &#8211; I just did this with Libba Bray&#39;s &quot;Going Bovine&quot;.  I liked it, so I bought it.  I don&#39;t know if you can say somebody isn&#39;t aspiring to create excellent work in this context&#8230;but, I may be wrong (it&#39;s happened&#8230;once.) 😉</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for this&#8230;it makes me want to consider buying an e-reader&#8230;.gasp! (you know, if my wife will let me&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: DGLM</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrew,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks, as always, for your thoughtful response.  I think I read what Godin&#039;s saying a bit differently. He&#039;s saying that e-book readers can be a book&#039;s biggest advocate.  When a Kindle user blogs about how great a book they just read was, I don&#039;t think they&#039;re going to mention that they loved the Kindle edition in particular.  By appealing to these high-volume folks, they&#039;re arming them to be advocates for their books.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If Amazon and Wal-Mart are willing to drop the price on hardcovers BELOW the price of e-books, maybe Amazon is willing to use the top bestsellers as loss-leaders on the Kindle, giving publishers time to figure out how to adjust their business models (not that they were really working all that well, anyway).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Michael]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,</p>
<p>Thanks, as always, for your thoughtful response.  I think I read what Godin&#39;s saying a bit differently. He&#39;s saying that e-book readers can be a book&#39;s biggest advocate.  When a Kindle user blogs about how great a book they just read was, I don&#39;t think they&#39;re going to mention that they loved the Kindle edition in particular.  By appealing to these high-volume folks, they&#39;re arming them to be advocates for their books.</p>
<p>If Amazon and Wal-Mart are willing to drop the price on hardcovers BELOW the price of e-books, maybe Amazon is willing to use the top bestsellers as loss-leaders on the Kindle, giving publishers time to figure out how to adjust their business models (not that they were really working all that well, anyway).</p>
<p>&#8211; Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Heppe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Heppe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am definitely reading more books because I have a Kindle app on my iPhone. I have my phone with me everywhere I go. This means I have a novel with em everywhere I go. No more wasting time with silly phone games. If I have free time I am reading a novel. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;d say the Kindle app is responsible for me tripling my reading.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am definitely reading more books because I have a Kindle app on my iPhone. I have my phone with me everywhere I go. This means I have a novel with em everywhere I go. No more wasting time with silly phone games. If I have free time I am reading a novel. </p>
<p>I&#39;d say the Kindle app is responsible for me tripling my reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Karre</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Karre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are publishers who are doing what Godin suggests (romance? sci-fi/fantasy?) now. This is because, it seems to me, the transition to ebooks doesn&#039;t kneecap their particular business model. I don&#039;t know this from experience, but it seems like if you&#039;re publishing relatively inexpensive (to acquire, to produce, and to buy) regular books for an audience that buys a lot of books, then jumping to a 9.99 ebooks isn&#039;t such a big deal. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the other hand, if you&#039;re publishing books that are relatively expensive (mainly for publishers to acquire and for consumers to buy), then no matter how much sense it may make in the long term to embrace ebooks, in the short term, the transition to 9.99 books might be really rocky. I don’t have an MBA, but in what consumer product sector does moving your best customers from a high price, high margin product to a low price, low margin product &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; result in serious turmoil? The trick isn&#039;t so much getting the consumer buy-in or selling the actual books, it&#039;s staying in business while you do it. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Are there ways to navigate this transition? I’m sure there are (and it will be an exciting time to work in books), but I have no doubt that there are as many wrong answers to the question “How can publishers transition to ebooks without going out of business?” as there are right ones. And I’m pretty sure many of the wrong answers are fatally wrong.&lt;br /&gt;It seems like Godin is saying &quot;ebooks will make your business stronger!&quot; but he&#039;s neglecting to mention that this is only if they don&#039;t kill your business in the process.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are publishers who are doing what Godin suggests (romance? sci-fi/fantasy?) now. This is because, it seems to me, the transition to ebooks doesn&#39;t kneecap their particular business model. I don&#39;t know this from experience, but it seems like if you&#39;re publishing relatively inexpensive (to acquire, to produce, and to buy) regular books for an audience that buys a lot of books, then jumping to a 9.99 ebooks isn&#39;t such a big deal. </p>
<p>On the other hand, if you&#39;re publishing books that are relatively expensive (mainly for publishers to acquire and for consumers to buy), then no matter how much sense it may make in the long term to embrace ebooks, in the short term, the transition to 9.99 books might be really rocky. I don’t have an MBA, but in what consumer product sector does moving your best customers from a high price, high margin product to a low price, low margin product <i>not</i> result in serious turmoil? The trick isn&#39;t so much getting the consumer buy-in or selling the actual books, it&#39;s staying in business while you do it. </p>
<p>Are there ways to navigate this transition? I’m sure there are (and it will be an exciting time to work in books), but I have no doubt that there are as many wrong answers to the question “How can publishers transition to ebooks without going out of business?” as there are right ones. And I’m pretty sure many of the wrong answers are fatally wrong.<br />It seems like Godin is saying &quot;ebooks will make your business stronger!&quot; but he&#39;s neglecting to mention that this is only if they don&#39;t kill your business in the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mlouisa,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You make an excellent point and it&#039;s been my experience, too. Pirating, whether music, books, movies, whatever, offers exposure to people who wouldn&#039;t have sought out that stuff in the first place. And in many cases, this has led to sales, not only to the person who originally downloaded the item for free, but to their friends and family, who then get them recommended. I&#039;m all for paying artists and authors -- I aspire to be one-- but I&#039;m far more likely to support an artist or author whose primary goal is to create excellent work than those seeking to profit from mediocre work. If publishers want us to buy, they&#039;ll publish quality (and take risks on something new) to sell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mlouisa,</p>
<p>You make an excellent point and it&#39;s been my experience, too. Pirating, whether music, books, movies, whatever, offers exposure to people who wouldn&#39;t have sought out that stuff in the first place. And in many cases, this has led to sales, not only to the person who originally downloaded the item for free, but to their friends and family, who then get them recommended. I&#39;m all for paying artists and authors &#8212; I aspire to be one&#8211; but I&#39;m far more likely to support an artist or author whose primary goal is to create excellent work than those seeking to profit from mediocre work. If publishers want us to buy, they&#39;ll publish quality (and take risks on something new) to sell.</p>
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